I like Tuesdays, because I don’t have to go to class. But, I dislike Tuesdays, because I usually have a ton of shot to do for my Wednesday morning class, which is the case once again this week. Plus I have a virtual meeting with my “team” later on tonight, because there’s apparently some big group project we need to do. Or something. I dunno. I really need to look at this stuff once in a while. Even worse, I’ve only really been able to do hit and run looks at the news and political sites, so I feel woefully underinformed. Is Cheney still a Dick? I dubya still a dummy? Is it true that Condi has to trade her hair in for offical, Army-issue armor?
:banana:im number 1 im number 1!:alc:im getting drunk tonight!
I’m . . . number 2? Ewww!
hey someone play a game with me! seaniesean5 on yahoo messenger!
fine!:mad: screw you guys!:fu:
Ha! Sean, I was just coming back to tell you I can’t play a game with you right now–hubby has to make a plane this morning and I’m trying to help him get out the door. Sorry!:tongue:
thats ok my yahoo messenger just went down! so uh if anybody tried playing a game with me sorry!
so uh anybody around my yahoo is back up! i need to play a game before i go over to the theater!
Russian military stalls on reports Ukraine sold warheads to Iran
Russian military stalls on reports Ukraine sold warheads to Iran
MOSCOW, April 3 (RIA Novosti) – The chief of Russia’s General Staff said Monday he could neither confirm nor deny reports that Ukraine had sold 250 nuclear warheads to Iran.
“Russia’s General Staff has no information about whether Ukraine has given 250 nuclear warheads to Iran or not,” General Yury Baluyevsky, also deputy defense minister, said in response to an article in Novaya Gazeta newspaper Monday. “I do not comment on unsubstantiated reports.”
The newspaper said that Ukraine had failed to return 250 warheads to Russia in the 1990s when the former Soviet republic declared itself a nuclear-free zone. The paper suggested the warheads could have been sold to a third country, including Iran.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060403/45107320.html
hey sweet fred will play a game with me! yay fred!
:banana:woo hoo nuclear iran!
Hey Sean I don’t have Yahoo messenger on this computer… sorry..
oh well:cry:
Hey, guys. I’m reposting Melina’s comments from last night explaining what we’re hoping to do for FK, since I’m too tired to try rewording it! (Didn’t sleep too well last night.)
Delay announces he is dropping out of the house race,
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12141276/
Now
1. Did he find second story work more lucrative
2. Is he going to Beijing as an advance man for the move to the Carlyle group villa.
3. Is He going to work for Exon/Mobile in their collections dept.
aww..seanie, you know i’d play a game with you (now that i actually know how to play dominos)but i can’t now.:fustrate:
:fu:legislative pig pack fucker!
i say we make it a crime punishable by death to defraud the american people from a legislative office! ha ha yes make the little pig faced corrupt bastards fear for their lives every time they take money illegally!
its all good i need to get my ass over to the theater anyway!
Remember what Hartman was saying the other day
China parliament official calls for cut in US debt holdings
… Cheng Siwei, vice-chairman of the National People’s Congress, was quoted by the Wen Wei Po as saying in Hong Kong that Beijing should stop buying US debt and cut its current holdings …
China held 256.7 bln usd worth of US treasury debt as of the end of last year, making it the second largest holder. Last year, China’s net purchases of US treasurys stood at 38.7 bln usd, accounting for half of all net purchases of US treasury bills and bonds …
it doesnt make any sense we are at a ridiculous trade deficit with china yet they still buy our debt? i guess when we go to war with them over our debt and crush the commie bastards we can erase our debt since to the victor go the spoils! see thats the easy way out of national debt!
i wonder what war with china will cost? hmmmmm who will buy our debt while we go to war with china to erase it? cath 22’s are stupid! anyway im done thinking apocalyptically for the morning!
The way Hartman explains it is that we buy lots of things from China so they end up holding lots of dollars.. They don’t find being a bank useful and the dollar is crap anyhow so they have to reinvest in something they can buy with dollars so since we no longer sell anything treasury bills are about the only thing they can buy.. Other than California, LA, Miss, Florida of course.
I doubt that the US could win a land war with IRAN ( we may find out) much less a land war with China and China also has nuclear weapons.. I would suggest learning Chinese.
Okay, so I’m really out of it but I wanted to address the PayPal issue. There’s no charge to the buyer–that is, the payor–who uses PayPal. There may be a charge on the receiving end, but basically PayPal is just a method of using your charge card or bank account to get money to smaller vendors. (Although it seems a lot of larger vendors are accepting it now too.) So what you want to pay is what you pay–no hidden fees. If it takes some time for a bank account to clear the PayPal hurdles, just let Melina or me (at lexikahn dot net) know how much you plan on contributing and we’ll (okay, she’ll) pay it up front.
Hope we hear something from Mr. soon!
I’m tired!:yawn:
It really sucks that the second cuppa coffee is never, ever as good as the first. Maybe I need a bigger cup? (Maybe I should just add my cream and sugar to the pot and drink that down!)
Okay, I’m gonna go try to finish up the French and Indian War manuscript! (It’ll be less painful if I’m half asleep.)
GATORS RULE!!!
THE BUGMAN IS CRUSHED!!!
HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY JOY!!!
:banana::banana::banana:
In other news, the Chimp threw out the first pitch at the Reds’ opener on Monday. It was high and outside, but he called it “my best pitch, which was kind of a slow ball.”
What an asshole. He can’t even tell the truth about THAT!!!
:fu::fu::fu:
Kevin, that’s as close as he’s ever gonna get to admitting that he’s slow!
(The fucking moron!)
Did the secret service allow anyone to come to watch the ball game.. or did they all have to sign oaths of allegiance ??
Gas prices are up!! Tom Delay resigns!! Bush is SLOW!!Good morning Sheeple!
messed up saving the show last night…too much computer upheaval aorund here.
I have to wait for the torrent, read the blog and dream….
I cant even look at Katie Couric! What an idiot!
Split screen of Chris Matthews and Katie!!…Im gonna throw up!
Is the broadcast TV industry trying to go out of business too. ??
Having Katie going to work for CBS is similar to GM deciding to build the Saturn.. Another person/car no one wants to buy.
I think that the only reason people continue to listen to the TV morning programs is because they lost their remote control unit or the batteries are dead and they are to poor to by new ones.
citizenkahn, how can I mail you a check ????? I don’t use anything online, thus no paypal 😀
Druid–
E-mail me at lexikahn dot net.
…and fred (from many moons ago)
Stonehenge is fine but I want as a (working) concept — Redwoodhenge 😉
Wow, thanks for posting FK’s condition.
citizenkahn ‘k’ 😉
Uhhhh.. Where who what did one post FamerKats condition ?? :doh::doh::???:
citizenkahn I can’t get you 🙁 BAH HUMBUG What in the bloody “L” did I do wrong? :growl:
I know you were going to sleep, so my email is morrigan_conway@hotmail.com I also have a Yahoo account.
Sean, I also tried to get to your address but my computer froze then so I will play a game another time, when my computer is NOT acting difficult 😉
Well, I wonder which day this week we’ll find out about FK. Johnny K Street?? 😉
Rachel is certainly making a big deal out of Delays demise. Retugs are like cockroaches they have been around forever and will continue to be around forever unless exceptional action is taken against them.
:jason::omg:
I see…:omg: We are wishing someone would post Famerkats condition… Ohhhh….:shock::doh:
Klaus Nomi dared to be great. He dared to combine opera, 1930’s German Cabaret, 1960’s American Pop and 21st century synthesizers. He also dared to present the visual image of a high fashion, heavily made-up futuristic robot/alien.
The world became aware of Klaus Nomi on December 15, 1979, when he backed David Bowie on NBC-TV’s Saturday Night Live.
Looks like the Feds are breathing down Delay’s Neck 😀
Urgh! A Music War is a British film released in 1981 featuring performances of punk and New Wave music, filmed in 1980. Among the artists featured in the movie are The Go-Go’s, The Fleshtones, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, XTC, Devo, Oingo Boingo, Gary Numan, Klaus Nomi, and The Police.
Urgh! A Music War acquired a cult following in the United States in the 1980s due to its frequent showings on USA Network. The film has been released on videocassette but is currently out of print.
This movie consisted of a series of punk and new wave songs, without narration or explanatory text. All clips were live, recorded around 1980 in England and the USA.
Hello generous people…whenever we find out how Kats doing, you guys are really the best. We’re over a hundred dollars already and still counting…so we should be able to get her a small arrangement for the hospital and then something like a little bush or tree that she will be able to keep to remember us by:love:
I got all the paypals and if anyone has questions about paypal and its safety, feel free to ask…I havent scanned back yet to see what the worries were, but Ive been using paypal since it first opened, to send and receive money and its a very safe process. It is totally encrypted like a bank and guaranteed..In any case, your credit card acct is protected for up to $50…and Id be surprised if they charged even that if someone were to steal your number.
In all these years I have only had my credit card hijacked twice. Once someone stole it from a local restaurant and ordered all sorts of leather from Victoria’s secret. They called me because it was unusual for someone to order multiples of the same item and spend so much. The second was online somewhere and someone tried to open an ATT account for email and an ebay account. IMmediately ebay noted that it was my card and shut the operation down. ATT didnt know because they give free service for a month or two with a credit card for security. I had cancelled the card so they sent me a bill…but they immediately expunged it when I notified them.
I still am very careful and I only use 1 card for online purchases so if its stolen I will know immediately. I do almost everything online too!
Paypal also has never given away or sold my information. I Must say that I get alot more offers from brick and mortar banks than I do from Paypal.
Still, I am happy to cover anyone who wants to snail a check…just mail me and I will send the address.
Anyway, For anyone who didnt get the info last night and this AM:
Hi everyone!
No word yet on Kat?
CK and I are cooking up a group flower arrangement for Kat…of course we probably cant send anything for a couple of days because she is porbably in intensive care. CK has found a great florist and there are a few things there that we like. This, this, this, to name a few….
If even a few of us chip in we could even send a small arrangement to the hospital and a plant to her home that will last a long time…they have all sorts of price points and very nice things.
I just wanted to try to gauge interest…Ill be happy to put it on my credit card and accept the donations through my paypal… and you just send whatever you can afford to doubter at optonline dot net.No amount is too small or too big! We will send a card from all Seditionistas so do what you can. If there is enough we will send something to the hospital and then a plant or something to her house….if there is a ton we will donate leftovers to Heifer
or Darfur or something like that. I will report all of this as it happens and show which arrangements are chosen. If you have any ideas please post em here or send em in the note section of the paypal. Ill collect till at least [Wednesday] and if you dont have a paypal account and want to send a check just mail me and let me know and Ill front the $ until the check can snail its way here.
Take a look via the links to see what theyve got and make suggestions if you want…If the links didnt come through look here: Concord Designs
I think thats right…we’re lookign at the nurturing series, the hydrangea, and the european flower garden.
Also, you all can send cards and email cards…
Shes really going to laid up for a while so Im sure she will appreciate anything.
Actually, Im sure shes still in intensive care and Mr is probably with her still, so we will have to hear when we hear….
Im sending good thoughts her way!!
Power of the blog!!
Hot Tub Tom
Melina, don’t feel I can add another group of people to my expenses. Very tight budget. Have to really weigh where I spend money. And, If I start giving to this one person will need to give to all and I’m not in a postition to do that. It’s a very nice gesture but wanted to explain why I won’t be sending any money.
Isi- dont worry, its from all of us anyway…just send her an email card or a snail card.
Travis- you are verified…Andy, it came in fine…an tell by looking to see if its complete. YOur end of paypal says that you gave so you have proof there. I can list the people’s alias’ later on so you can be sure that I have it.
Krista I have to mail you form my phone because I have an error in my inbox…am getting mail on my phone though…I have to call and see whats up but need to do a few house/animal things first. The boy was feeling nauseus this AM and didnt want to get on the bus so I had a big hysteria of forcing him…and he went….but I want to get it together in case I have to run out and get him. He gets this alot because he has really bad anxiety.
Melina, I know a little something about anxiety disorders. You are in a part of the country that has a lot of experts in this field. Does he participate in exposure and response prevention treatment?
DM: Yes, and from Ellul’s perspective, that translates into control. Control is what programs like MK Ultra were about and that raises critical ethical issues.
I worked at Stanford with Harvey Weinstein a psychiatrist who headed student psychiatric services for the university. Harvey became a psychiatrist because his father was a victim of MKULTRA experimentation. His father deteriorated into depression and worse as a consequence of Ewen Cameron’s crazy science, but the family was told his father was going through this because he was not sufficiently cooperative with his treatment. That pushed Harvey into psychiatry. In the late seventies, after the revelations of the Church and Pike Committee hearings, he became aware of the real causes.
Why are those devastating techniques lumped in with intelligence at all? That goes to the more basic question of why are intelligence and covert operations lumped together? Intelligence is about information. The rule of thumb for covert operations is that there is 75% disinformation. The ethical issues are difficult to reconcile. One is based on truth and other on its opposite.
Melina, I do not and have never used paypal, but I would like to add to flowers. I left my email above cuz CK was advising the different ways to send $. My dear, stupid computer/NET likes fighting with me 😀
I am :yawn:, so either leave a message here or on my email from above 😀 :tongue: , but I am locking up ye old house; thus, I am still around for a bit more.
Just thought I’d mention that it was 38 years ago today that Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated.
Hey Melina,
Good to know it worked. Is that the right link for the flower place, I’m getting a cabinet store.
Isi-hes in therapy with a PhD who is behavioral (and long time surrogate father figure so pretty entrenched) and he also sees a psychopharmacologist MD, and he goes to a special school for learning disabilities, where they have 2 psychologists and a social worker who deal with anxiety all the time. Its still hit and miss because he is growing so fast and is so very intelligent, that he cant help but know whats going on in the world and also has sensory issues so everythign feels like an assault.
The biggest thing now is that he is hell bent on playing lacrosse and he loves it, but it is so hard for him!…first game next Tuesday and Im gonna be there with the video camera!
I dont know about exposure and response, but Id be happy to know about anything that may be of help.
Im thinking of trying neurobiofeedback just to help him learn how to quiet his mind.
There are alot of issues going on and some are physical…so, its a complicated thing to treat.
He is a very intelligent and fantastic boy, and you wouldnt know that he feels so bad to see how he does in public and in school…hes got tons of friends and seems happy. But then he gets home and just collapses from the stress of keeping himself together all day.
The meds help but he still feels like hes got this sadness and shy thing inside of him…he knows that its part of him and wont go away, but that he can feel better, but never enough to make it just normal.
he is just too damned smart for his own good and questions which one is really him, the happy medicated or the sad inside…and also that the universe will eventually come to an end just like his life and everything we know, so what is the point…?
He is not suicidal…just questioning…
Its hard, but I understand him because we are alot alike. Ive just lived longer and found a way to live and be happy (?)…such as I muddle along and try to do good.
Ill take any advice…I’d do anything for this guy…
But please dont tell me that meds dont work or are bad, because we’ve been on and off of them and this is a case where the are quite imperative. There are so many healthfoody people around me trying to say this or that but not understanding that Ive been there and revisit all the time, as we give him med breaks…
In this new school Im doing some work with parents of anxious kids…its incredible how common this has become…and theyve seen a dramatic increase since 911. Learning disabled kids are anxious anyway, but the stuff coming up is so much more than that. Its interesting and sort of a local pet cause of mine. There are kids I know who are pulling out their eyebrow hairs and eyelashes and the parents think its just a phase!
I also am in the old public school all the itme and there is a huge issue there because they dont have any programs for these kids…they can barely keep up with no child left behind and the disabled kids theyve got…now comes a huge wave of sensitive and anxious kids….what is it from?…its not the newest thing in the world but its something that is alot bigger than it ever was according to the school psychologists I know.
Will was always like this but Im seeing alot from 911 and also the political thing, which is unavoidable in how much tension its caused in the country and us being at war. You cant protect them from it and I prefer to let this one know whats going on and my experience with things getting better again, so he wont just think that the world is ending. Of course, these kids can see physical changes in their world over their short lives, so that is very disconcerting.
Anyway…sorry to go on…its one of my pet things…
I am having still email trouble so please Krista and Dru, mail me so I can ge tyour addresses and mail you from my phone with the contact info…or if its not resolved in a few hours I will have CK send out the mailing info.
Im at doubter at optonline.net
Andy…look up to CK’s copy of my mail this AM…like #6 or 7…I think she was able to copy the links properly…I am at a loss abotu thse things unless XP askes me “do you want to copy links?”…so much for Ms Tech freak!
lets all go out and celebrate MLK’s assignation by building a bonfire.. I woiuld bet that a Wa.M..t. full of Chinese crap would burn well.
I’m awake again but just checking in before I hit ths shower and head to the city. The florist’s site is here and the arrangements we liked are here, here, and here.
I’ve really got to run but I’ll be back later. If anyone needs to reach me directly, they can at citizenkahn at lexikahn dot net.
Melina–so sorry to hear about Will’s issues. I had no idea. We’ll tawk. (Or type.)
p.s. Melina, I e-mailed you this a.m. but don’t know if you got it because of your abovementioned retrieval problems. Let me know (via blog) when you’re up and running and whether you need me to resend it.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
#54, Melina I will collect my thoughts, takes me a while, and respond later.
CK- I did email you back but I guess its pushed through my outlook…I will fix that but have to do a few things first regarding the house and people coming here too soon to do stuff…always…and I am not ready…and my bird wants me!
Alternate mail address is coco_lefleur at hotmail dot com I will check that and may ultimately make that one the phone email because I cant possibly have that much stuff find me on the oad…its too horrifying.
I also have a gamil but it was on the laptop and I have no access to that info right now…
Good morning, can’t stay long, gotta get out the door but I’ll email you later today.
pj thanks for the MLK reminder. What to do?
:40:?
:priest:?
:bong:?
:knit2:?
Maybe just 😥
No worries, Melina. Maybe by the time I get back from the city it’ll be in my inbox.
The vet left a message while I was in the shower–Otis’s bloodwork has come back NORMAL! His RBC is up to 40 now–that’s 4x what it was when he was in the hospital.
Good boy, Otis!
Hey, KK. Running out but didn’t want to ignore ya!:gate:
Thanks. CK, you’re doing good. :bow:
Time to go out to celebrate tomorrow’s holiday. Bye (881)
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Melina and Citizenkahn, I tried the email addresses but no luck. I will try later. 😥 so …. one of my email adr is morrigan_conway at hotmail dot com …. also I have other accts with gmail and sbc and …
I will try later or please contact me since I must be doing something wrong or it is me or my computer’s attitude. BAH HUMBUG :growl: It’s a bloody XP!
:billcat:YEA OTIS :banana:
G’Night, G’Morning to One and to All
Jay Marvin is a stupid Jerk sometimes
This is a copy of an email just sent him .. asshole
I really appreciate what you do but ….
I listened to your tirade this morning about the movies about 911..What happened that day was terrible but the United States has been the worlds biggest terrorist in terms of killing hundreds of thousands of people in Central and South America in the 1980’s and millions in southeast Asia before that.. Our desire to be an empire has placed tens of millions of people under the repression of dictators all over the world and has repressed popular fronts because they dared to look communistic to the United Fruit company. or to Exxon/Mobile. There are probably a lot more people in the world today that think we got what we had coming that day and wish we would get more. If these movies went back in to the RayGun and Johnson administrations and told the history of why it happened as well as the reality of what happening they might open some eyes but your indignation over them telling the story too soon is maybe in reality too late.. There are al lot of people out here in reality land that might even conjecture that the Busivecs were behind 911 . If Americans abhor terror they might not like at all what may happen next.
MLK BLESSINGS ALWAYS :gate: :love:
seanieseans shiny new show is starting to take shape thanks to mr kinney from japan! i think i might need to give him equal billing!
Now that i have sent Jay his morning Im pissed gram I get a email for the People for the American Way asking me to email Allard to ask him to not vote for Frists draconian immigration bill. I think Allards staff has my emails on their spam list in that they always start out Dear Senator Asshole.
fred 😉 regarding #69
G’Ni , G’Morn
KK-I emailed you back and am not sure if the mail went out because I am still workign on my email situation…am not sure if what I am writing is going out.
Just so you all know…flowers are going from the entire group and all identities and info on people will be held in strictest confidence by me…I will not sell you to spam co. or come and visit you unexpectedly;-)
I will have this email thing figured out pretty soon…though its taking a long itme and Im folding laundry while the tech person is conferring with another tech person…
CK, did you get my answer to your mail this AM? I wonder if my mail is working at all.
Well I see RTD has called in the “private contractors” ( spelled scabs) to run at least the bus service while the union is on strike.. Tancrapface’s constituents should be happy now.
CK- Just saw your note about Otis…congrats! Yay Otis! Most expensive cat in the world and worth every penny (on your credit card!)
:fustrate:so uh yep i can never get pay-pal to work!
hey sheeple im looking for a map showing jack kerouacs travels from on the road anyway uh yep someone point me to a site if you can i cant find one
H.R. 282
1/6/2005–Introduced.
Iran Freedom Support Act – States that: (1) U.S. sanctions, controls, and regulations relating to weapons of mass destruction with respect to Iran shall remain in effect until the President certifies to the appropriate congressional committees that Iran has permanently and verifiably dismantled its weapons of mass destruction programs and has committed to combating such weapons’ proliferation; and (2) such certification shall have no effect on other sanctions relating to Iranian support of international terrorism. Amends the Iran and Libya Sanctions Act of 1996 to: (1) eliminate mandatory sanction provisions respecting Libya; (2) impose mandatory sanctions on a person or entity that aids Iran acquire or develop weapons of mass destruction or destabilizing types and numbers of conventional weapons; (3) revise multilateral regime reporting requirements, including provisions respecting sanctions on individuals aiding Iranian petroleum development; (4) enlarge the scope of sanctionable entities; and (5) eliminate the sunset provision.
Authorizes the President to provide financial and political assistance to eligible foreign and domestic individuals and groups that support democracy in Iran and that are opposed to the Government of Iran.
Expresses the sense of Congress that: (1) the President should appoint a special assistant on Iranian matters; (2) contacts should be expanded with democratic Iranian opposition groups; and (3) the President should designate at least one such eligible group within 90 days of enactment of this Act.
and here are our beloved cosponsors of Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen’s [R-FL] bill
Rep. Gary Ackerman [D-NY]
Rep. Robert Aderholt [R-AL]
Rep. W. Todd Akin [R-MO]
Rep. Rodney Alexander [R-LA]
Rep. Thomas Allen [D-ME]
Rep. Robert Andrews [D-NJ]
Rep. Joe Baca [D-CA]
Rep. Spencer Bachus [R-AL]
Rep. Brian Baird [D-WA]
Rep. Richard Baker [R-LA]
Rep. Tammy Baldwin [D-WI]
Rep. James Barrett [R-SC]
Rep. John Barrow [D-GA]
Rep. Roscoe Bartlett [R-MD]
Rep. Charles Bass [R-NH]
Rep. Melissa Bean [D-IL]
Rep. Bob Beauprez [R-CO]
Rep. Shelley Berkley [D-NV]
Rep. Howard Berman [D-CA]
Rep. Robert Berry [D-AR]
Rep. Judy Biggert [R-IL]
Rep. Michael Bilirakis [R-FL]
Rep. Rob Bishop [R-UT]
Rep. Sanford Bishop [D-GA]
Rep. Timothy Bishop [D-NY]
Rep. Marsha Blackburn [R-TN]
Rep. Roy Blunt [R-MO]
Rep. Sherwood Boehlert [R-NY]
Rep. John Boehner [R-OH]
Rep. Henry Bonilla [R-TX]
Rep. Jo Bonner [R-AL]
Rep. Mary Bono [R-CA]
Rep. John Boozman [R-AR]
Rep. Dan Boren [D-OK]
Rep. Leonard Boswell [D-IA]
Rep. Charles Boustany [R-LA]
Rep. F. Allen Boyd [D-FL]
Rep. Jeb Bradley [R-NH]
Rep. Robert Brady [D-PA]
Rep. Corrine Brown [D-FL]
Rep. Henry Brown [R-SC]
Rep. Sherrod Brown [D-OH]
Rep. Virginia Brown-Waite [R-FL]
Rep. Michael Burgess [R-TX]
Rep. Dan Burton [R-IN]
Rep. George Butterfield [D-NC]
Rep. Ken Calvert [R-CA]
Rep. David Camp [R-MI]
Rep. John Campbell [R-CA]
Rep. Christopher Cannon [R-UT]
Rep. Eric Cantor [R-VA]
Rep. Shelley Capito [R-WV]
Rep. Benjamin Cardin [D-MD]
Rep. Dennis Cardoza [D-CA]
Rep. Russ Carnahan [D-MO]
Rep. John Carter [R-TX]
Rep. Ed Case [D-HI]
Rep. Steven Chabot [R-OH]
Rep. Ben Chandler [D-KY]
Rep. Chris Chocola [R-IN]
Rep. William Clay [D-MO]
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver [D-MO]
Rep. James Clyburn [D-SC]
Rep. John Coble [R-NC]
Rep. Tom Cole [R-OK]
Rep. K. Michael Conaway [R-TX]
Rep. Jim Cooper [D-TN]
Rep. Jim Costa [D-CA]
Rep. Jerry Costello [D-IL]
Rep. C. Christopher Cox [R-CA]
Rep. Robert Cramer [D-AL]
Rep. Ander Crenshaw [R-FL]
Rep. Joseph Crowley [D-NY]
Rep. Barbara Cubin [R-WY]
Rep. Henry Cuellar [D-TX]
Rep. John Culberson [R-TX]
Rep. Elijah Cummings [D-MD]
Rep. Randall Cunningham [R-CA]
Rep. Artur Davis [D-AL]
Rep. Danny Davis [D-IL]
Rep. Geoff Davis [R-KY]
Rep. James Davis [D-FL]
Rep. Jo Ann Davis [R-VA]
Rep. Lincoln Davis [D-TN]
Rep. Susan Davis [D-CA]
Rep. Nathan Deal [R-GA]
Rep. Diana DeGette [D-CO]
Rep. Rosa DeLauro [D-CT]
Rep. Charles Dent [R-PA]
Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart [R-FL]
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart [R-FL]
Rep. Norman Dicks [D-WA]
Rep. John Doolittle [R-CA]
Rep. Michael Doyle [D-PA]
Rep. Thelma Drake [R-VA]
Rep. Thomas Edwards [D-TX]
Rep. Rahm Emanuel [D-IL]
Rep. Jo Ann Emerson [R-MO]
Rep. Eliot Engel [D-NY]
Rep. Philip English [R-PA]
Rep. Anna Eshoo [D-CA]
Rep. Bob Etheridge [D-NC]
Rep. Lane Evans [D-IL]
Rep. Terry Everett [R-AL]
Rep. Eni Faleomavaega [D-AS]
Rep. Sam Farr [D-CA]
Rep. Chaka Fattah [D-PA]
Rep. Tom Feeney [R-FL]
Rep. Michael Ferguson [R-NJ]
Rep. Bob Filner [D-CA]
Rep. Michael Fitzpatrick [R-PA]
Rep. Mark Foley [R-FL]
Rep. James Forbes [R-VA]
Rep. Harold Ford [D-TN]
Rep. Jeffrey Fortenberry [R-NE]
Rep. Luis Fortuno [?-PR]
Rep. Vito Fossella [R-NY]
Rep. Virginia Foxx [R-NC]
Rep. Barney Frank [D-MA]
Rep. Trent Franks [R-AZ]
Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen [R-NJ]
Rep. Elton Gallegly [R-CA]
Rep. E. Scott Garrett [R-NJ]
Rep. Jim Gerlach [R-PA]
Rep. James Gibbons [R-NV]
Rep. Wayne Gilchrest [R-MD]
Rep. John Gingrey [R-GA]
Rep. Louis Gohmert [R-TX]
Rep. Charles Gonzalez [D-TX]
Rep. Virgil Goode [R-VA]
Rep. Barton Gordon [D-TN]
Rep. Samuel Graves [R-MO]
Rep. Al Green [D-TX]
Rep. Raymond Green [D-TX]
Rep. Mark Green [R-WI]
Rep. Raul Grijalva [D-AZ]
Rep. Luis Gutierrez [D-IL]
Rep. Ralph Hall [R-TX]
Rep. Jane Harman [D-CA]
Rep. Katherine Harris [R-FL]
Rep. Melissa Hart [R-PA]
Rep. Alcee Hastings [D-FL]
Rep. Doc Hastings [R-WA]
Rep. Robert Hayes [R-NC]
Rep. John Hayworth [R-AZ]
Rep. Joel Hefley [R-CO]
Rep. Jeb Hensarling [R-TX]
Rep. Walter Herger [R-CA]
Rep. Stephanie Herseth [D-SD]
Rep. Brian Higgins [D-NY]
Rep. Tim Holden [D-PA]
Rep. Rush Holt [D-NJ]
Rep. Michael Honda [D-CA]
Rep. Steny Hoyer [D-MD]
Rep. Kenny Hulshof [R-MO]
Rep. Bob Inglis [R-SC]
Rep. Jay Inslee [D-WA]
Rep. Steve Israel [D-NY]
Rep. Darrell Issa [R-CA]
Rep. Jesse Jackson [D-IL]
Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee [D-TX]
Rep. William Jefferson [D-LA]
Rep. Bobby Jindal [R-LA]
Rep. Eddie Johnson [D-TX]
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Rep. Ric Keller [R-FL]
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Rep. Mark Kennedy [R-MN]
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Rep. Dale Kildee [D-MI]
Rep. Ronald Kind [D-WI]
Rep. Peter King [R-NY]
Rep. Steve King [R-IA]
Rep. Jack Kingston [R-GA]
Rep. Mark Kirk [R-IL]
Rep. John Kline [R-MN]
Rep. Joseph Knollenberg [R-MI]
Rep. John Kuhl [R-NY]
Rep. Ray LaHood [R-IL]
Rep. James Langevin [D-RI]
Rep. Tom Lantos [D-CA]
Rep. Rick Larsen [D-WA]
Rep. John Larson [D-CT]
Rep. Steven LaTourette [R-OH]
Rep. Barbara Lee [D-CA]
Rep. Sander Levin [D-MI]
Rep. Jerry Lewis [R-CA]
Rep. John Lewis [D-GA]
Rep. Ron Lewis [R-KY]
Rep. John Linder [R-GA]
Rep. Daniel Lipinski [D-IL]
Rep. Frank LoBiondo [R-NJ]
Rep. Zoe Lofgren [D-CA]
Rep. Nita Lowey [D-NY]
Rep. Frank Lucas [R-OK]
Rep. Daniel Lungren [R-CA]
Rep. Stephen Lynch [D-MA]
Rep. Connie Mack [R-FL]
Rep. Carolyn Maloney [D-NY]
Rep. Donald Manzullo [R-IL]
Rep. Kenny Marchant [R-TX]
Rep. Edward Markey [D-MA]
Rep. James Marshall [D-GA]
Rep. Jim Matheson [D-UT]
Rep. Doris Matsui [D-CA]
Rep. Carolyn McCarthy [D-NY]
Rep. Michael McCaul [R-TX]
Rep. Thaddeus McCotter [R-MI]
Rep. James McCrery [R-LA]
Rep. Patrick McHenry [R-NC]
Rep. John McHugh [R-NY]
Rep. Mike McIntyre [D-NC]
Rep. Howard McKeon [R-CA]
Rep. Cathy McMorris [R-WA]
Rep. Michael McNulty [D-NY]
Rep. Martin Meehan [D-MA]
Rep. Kendrick Meek [D-FL]
Rep. Gregory Meeks [D-NY]
Rep. Charles Melancon [D-LA]
Rep. Robert Menendez [D-NJ]
Rep. John Mica [R-FL]
Rep. Michael Michaud [D-ME]
Rep. R. Bradley Miller [D-NC]
Rep. Candice Miller [R-MI]
Rep. George Miller [D-CA]
Rep. Jeff Miller [R-FL]
Rep. Dennis Moore [D-KS]
Rep. Gwen Moore [D-WI]
Rep. Tim Murphy [R-PA]
Rep. Marilyn Musgrave [R-CO]
Rep. Sue Myrick [R-NC]
Rep. Jerrold Nadler [D-NY]
Rep. Grace Napolitano [D-CA]
Rep. Richard Neal [D-MA]
Rep. Randy Neugebauer [R-TX]
Rep. Anne Northup [R-KY]
Rep. Charles Norwood [R-GA]
Rep. Devin Nunes [R-CA]
Rep. James Nussle [R-IA]
Rep. John Olver [D-MA]
Rep. Thomas Osborne [R-NE]
Rep. C.L. Otter [R-ID]
Rep. Major Owens [D-NY]
Rep. Michael Oxley [R-OH]
Rep. Frank Pallone [D-NJ]
Rep. William Pascrell [D-NJ]
Rep. Edward Pastor [D-AZ]
Rep. Donald Payne [D-NJ]
Rep. Steven Pearce [R-NM]
Rep. Nancy Pelosi [D-CA]
Rep. Mike Pence [R-IN]
Rep. Collin Peterson [D-MN]
Rep. John Peterson [R-PA]
Rep. Charles Pickering [R-MS]
Rep. Todd Platts [R-PA]
Rep. Ted Poe [R-TX]
Rep. Richard Pombo [R-CA]
Rep. Earl Pomeroy [D-ND]
Rep. Jon Porter [R-NV]
Rep. Tom Price [R-GA]
Rep. Deborah Pryce [R-OH]
Rep. Adam Putnam [R-FL]
Rep. George Radanovich [R-CA]
Rep. James Ramstad [R-MN]
Rep. Charles Rangel [D-NY]
Rep. Dennis Rehberg [R-MT]
Rep. Dave Reichert [R-WA]
Rep. Rick Renzi [R-AZ]
Rep. Silvestre Reyes [D-TX]
Rep. Thomas Reynolds [R-NY]
Rep. Harold Rogers [R-KY]
Rep. Michael Rogers [R-MI]
Rep. Michael Rogers [R-AL]
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher [R-CA]
Rep. Mike Ross [D-AR]
Rep. Steven Rothman [D-NJ]
Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard [D-CA]
Rep. Edward Royce [R-CA]
Rep. C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger [D-MD]
Rep. Bobby Rush [D-IL]
Rep. Paul Ryan [R-WI]
Rep. Timothy Ryan [D-OH]
Rep. Jim Ryun [R-KS]
Rep. John Salazar [D-CO]
Rep. Linda Sanchez [D-CA]
Rep. Loretta Sanchez [D-CA]
Rep. Bernard Sanders [I-VT]
Rep. H. James Saxton [R-NJ]
Rep. Janice Schakowsky [D-IL]
Rep. Adam Schiff [D-CA]
Rep. Jean Schmidt [R-OH]
Rep. Allyson Schwartz [D-PA]
Rep. John Schwarz [R-MI]
Rep. David Scott [D-GA]
Rep. Robert Scott [D-VA]
Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner [R-WI]
Rep. Peter Sessions [R-TX]
Rep. John Shadegg [R-AZ]
Rep. E. Clay Shaw [R-FL]
Rep. Christopher Shays [R-CT]
Rep. Brad Sherman [D-CA]
Rep. John Shimkus [R-IL]
Rep. William Shuster [R-PA]
Rep. Robert Simmons [R-CT]
Rep. Michael Simpson [R-ID]
Rep. Ike Skelton [D-MO]
Rep. Louise Slaughter [D-NY]
Rep. Adam Smith [D-WA]
Rep. Christopher Smith [R-NJ]
Rep. Lamar Smith [R-TX]
Rep. Michael Sodrel [R-IN]
Rep. Hilda Solis [D-CA]
Rep. Mark Souder [R-IN]
Rep. Clifford Stearns [R-FL]
Rep. Ted Strickland [D-OH]
Rep. Bart Stupak [D-MI]
Rep. John Sullivan [R-OK]
Rep. John Sweeney [R-NY]
Rep. Thomas Tancredo [R-CO]
Rep. John Tanner [D-TN]
Rep. Ellen Tauscher [D-CA]
Rep. Charles Taylor [R-NC]
Rep. Lee Terry [R-NE]
Rep. Bennie Thompson [D-MS]
Rep. C. Michael Thompson [D-CA]
Rep. Todd Tiahrt [R-KS]
Rep. Patrick Tiberi [R-OH]
Rep. Edolphus Towns [D-NY]
Rep. Michael Turner [R-OH]
Rep. Mark Udall [D-CO]
Rep. Tom Udall [D-NM]
Rep. Frederick Upton [R-MI]
Rep. Christopher Van Hollen [D-MD]
Rep. Peter Visclosky [D-IN]
Rep. Greg Walden [R-OR]
Rep. James Walsh [R-NY]
Rep. Zach Wamp [R-TN]
Rep. Debbie Schultz [D-FL]
Rep. Henry Waxman [D-CA]
Rep. Anthony Weiner [D-NY]
Rep. W. Curtis Weldon [R-PA]
Rep. David Weldon [R-FL]
Rep. Gerald Weller [R-IL]
Rep. Lynn Westmoreland [R-GA]
Rep. Robert Wexler [D-FL]
Rep. Roger Wicker [R-MS]
Rep. Heather Wilson [R-NM]
Rep. Addison Wilson [R-SC]
Rep. Frank Wolf [R-VA]
Rep. Lynn Woolsey [D-CA]
Rep. David Wu [D-OR]
Rep. Albert Wynn [D-MD]
Rep. C. W. Bill Young [R-FL]
sorry so long!
Jack Kerouac 1947-48
:banana:sweet thanks isi!
:hubba:mwah ha ha your mama and a strap on!
This looks 😎
it’s not your fault that the list is so long, sean. looks like just about everyone is on board to give bush the excuse/mandate for a war with iran. even my own congress rep mike thompson, who is usually against stuff like this. all those dems. sad. 😥
well i could of just put a link i had a little argument with myself over it and then just said hey fuck it i will just put the whole list up and let everyone just find their rep as they scrolled rather than going to another site
🙁 my piece of shit congressman is on there too! then again my dem is a neo-con!
🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁
damn it why wont the smiley work! fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck!
ha ha they work now!
:paranoid:hey where did everyone go? :yuck:its super windy!
my butt itches! ugh i need to go vegemetarian just so i lose some weight!
i know you are all being very carefull to read every co-sponsor!
whoa…are you guys watching the labor law protests in Paris?!! it’s getting outta hand:paranoid:
a whole bunch of people are getting arrested and beaten by the police :fu:
:banana:sweet!
:nixon:its like the beastie boys say!
:jason:you got to fight for your right! :fist:to work?
hmmmm yes yes i must say ive noticed something over the last 5 or 6 years the older workers in america seem to be fine with selling their children down the river when it comes to workers rights living wages etc. hence the failure of the current labor movement to gain new members how long before we have our own riots in the streets? i say 5 years or so but thats just imho take it as you will ok well i am off to the best buy!
when i say older workers are selling the younger workers down the river part of that is older union members making deals that keep older workers benefits and wages while cutting the younger workers benefits and wages! unions that arent equally concerned with fighting for all union members past present and future are a disgrace to the labor movement and jimmy hoffa rolls in his grave every time it happens! (where ever that may be?)
when i get back from the store i will go find some articles or something about it! for now just take my word that it happens or if anyone would like to save me some work find it for me while im out!
Oh my. I’m exhausted. So much blogging to catch up on. (Druid, I’ll e-mail you as soon as I finish typing!)
Melina, I haven’t gotten any mail from you since last night.:( I just sent you an e-mail to your hotmail account. I’m sure we’ll connect at some point.
jeffy the penguin says “union members are lazy bastards that use the union to deny the employers their right to fire low quality employees”
what an evil fucking penguin! fuck you jeffy get out of my head you bastard! stop talking shit about my dad! jerk! asshole!
(i was in the teamsters) just a little disclosure there that i am a former union member and hopefully future union member once again!
A good friend of mine worked for the city (NYC) back in 1991. She was in PR, a petite young thing, but she hadda join the Teamsters. We had a lot of laughs over that one!
I used to date a big shot in the taxi drivers union. And some relative on my dad’s side was involved in establishing the ILGWU. I sure wish I’d paid more attention to Grandpa Hy’s stories! Who knew I’d be interested when I grew up?:no:
Greetings from Mr. Farmer Kat reporting now from Emory Hospital in Atlanta. Mrs. Farmer Kat, I am ecstatic to report, had a very successful surgery. She’s in bed recovering and, of course, is dealing with the pain associated with having your chest cut open, but the Delay resignation has proved to be her best painkilller! I’ll post updates soon, as will she!
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
That’s great Mike. Give her our best.
thank you mr. farmerkat. this news is so good and so welcome. we are happy for her! :nixon::santacool::peace::alc:
Fantasist news about Farmerkat best of luck to both her and Mike..:banana::banana::banana::banana:
:nixon::banana:
once again, the Blogging power of the Seditionist has come through. although, i’m sure the fact that Kat is a tough cookie to break helps too :love::fist:
that’s awesome news Mike!!! send her our love!:love::banana::fist:
sean, this is the quickest article i could find on Paris
click here
Yay Kat!! Feel better soon!!!:love:
nevermind…here’s a better one on the protest
here
Hey, did anyone tell Marc abotu Kat? I was gonna mail him but had this huge glitch here…but I can now if no one has already.
Hey Nicki- I knew Klaus and his boyfriend Joey (from Fiorucci) in another life…did you know him?
Man…the old days…
:peace:
Thanks Mr FK for the update. Glad to hear the good news! Wish farmetkat well and tell her we are all thinking about her!:nod:
I e-mailed Marc yesterday, and again today when we heard she was doing OK.
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
You can say that again!
Marc said that his new producer used to be Chuck D’s Producer. It sounds like he is saying Bill Kohlar but I can’t find any info on him. Anyone know about him?
OMG, I was there! I well remember them both from the 59th Street store. I had my ears pierced there one day when Liza stopped by!
(Yes, yes, I know. I am a goddess of cool.:doh:)
Okay, now I’ve gotta do some work so I can watch Homicide (7pm EST) without guilt!
:banana:yay thanks mike!
somebody cut jims tab commercial out of the show and email it to me!
From Radio Ink:
:paranoid:huh? it started already!:doh:
Thanks pj. Do you know if this means the show will be pre taped?
Sean, I never know any more if you are pulling our leg. But sounds like the 17th is the day TMMS goes up on the bird. They will have a set time of 2 hours.
Well back on the subject of political talk radio I have listened to the third voice in the 3pm – whenever time slot and Guy James sounds like a good ol boy but doesn’t have anymore to say about solutions than Rhodes or Schultz does.. If you want to try out Guy James you get to his stream through the WhiteRose society home page. http://www.whiterosesociety.org
Christopher Dodd thinking about running for president 😉
That’s what Marc seemed to be saying when he talking about it being syndicated before. I guess that’ll make it hard to call in, unless it’s on somewhere live. It’d still have to be streaming for me, though, since I doubt we’ll get the show on in my area anywhere.
Maybe we’ll hear more from Marc tonight – after the Clippers game, of course.
the way i understand it it will be live every night from 1 to 3am (my time) regardless of if it is going out on ktla or not!
:fist:viva la live marc!
Hartman’s show is syndicated by AAR and he is on live .. in the daytime.. I would suppose it will depend on how AAR syndicates it ..Maron’s show should still be live since there is nothing live on AAR opposit it.
:yawn:i go sleep sleep!
it would appear we have a DINO with her nose out of joint.
Landrieu will BLOCK all Bush appointees nominations until they get a response from Bush on funding for Katrina victims.
This was just announced on CNN – Blitzer at 4:30 p.m EDT
Thanks for the great news Mr. Farmerkat ! Hope she gets back to her home turf with all due speed.
(Hey Sean, you making fun of Rep. Faleo’s “base” again? Don’t mess with Eni’s meanies.)
Danette: guitar I had been reading The Society of the Spectacle by Guy Debord, a book written about forty years ago that major eggheads like to dismiss as post communist hyper intellectuality but to me that book is a word scalpel cutting through all the bullshit foisted on us everyday. I had to read him slow. I had to read one sentence over and over again till I could crack open the meaning.
Debord describes the world as it is. The world of factories churning out anonymous nonsense, a hundred different brands of the same thing, so you can pretend you have choices in life.
Eni’s meanies:rofl2:
Marc said before that they would probably be taping it a little earlier. Odds are they’d want to be able to offer it to the East Coast stations earlier than 1 AM (or they’d have to delay it (pardon the expression) for almost a full day.
i like candy!
Paris: May ’68. Students and workers nearly toppled the French government.
France: March/April 2006:…………:omg:
:fist:topple! :love:
I was at a lecture in November 1988. The professor predicted that the Reagan/Bush taxcuts would have such a adevastating effect on people that they would protest is large numbers and likely topple the Bush regime. Then, which ever side the army went on would decide the outcome.:omg:
Where was that bitch when it was time to block Alito?:fu:
:40:luckily bush made new taxes! well the other bush:doh:
Asshole Chris Matthews just had Tom Delay on to talk about his “retirement”…oh that makes me so mad…will have to watch the rebroadcast at 7 to see the whole thing and if he asked him any questions at all! Do you think that when we put all the rethugs in jail we can also put their mouthpieces in there too?
Im really wanting to see Matthews fall …and his “hotshots” with him!…oh, and lets throw in Timmy too!
April 4, 2006
Why the US May Be Acting Against Its Own Interests in the Middle East
The Israel Lobby and Beyond
By MICHAEL NEUMANN
Professors Walt and Mearsheimer’s “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy” is an important contribution to the Israel/Palestine debate. It’s too bad the important stuff got lost in the melodrama.
The melodrama is about the Israel lobby, aka the ‘Jewish lobby’. One whiff of Jewish conspiracy theory, and squads of columnists march off to fight the Nazis lurking in academia. But at a bit of a distance, it’s hard to see why tales of the lobby are so fascinating.
Various self-styled Jewish organizations and pro-Israel outfits, like so many political pressure groups, brag about their success. No one suggests they’re lying. Exactly how much influence do they have over US policy? To what extent are they responsible for getting the US into Iraq?
We have no idea. US policy-making is a complicated business. Some of it is secret. People’s motives and thought processes are often hidden. And to what extent are the lobbyists pushing decision-makers down a path they already want to go?
I don’t even find these questions interesting.
What really matters is whether support for Israel serves US interests. If it does, why on earth would we care about a pro-Israel lobby? If it doesn’t, then the lobby is a bad thing even if it didn’t conspire to get us into Iraq…
http://www.counterpunch.org
That creep DeLay is going down!:nixon:
How the hammer got nailed:
http://www.counterpunch.org/thoreau04042006.html
Yeah, but back then people were living all over the streets of NYC and thousands were dying of AIDS…and there were no huge riots….
And then with Clinton and welfare reform we were (I was with social workers studying social work at the time) worried that again we would have people living on the streets…and where was the uprising?
I think that none of us cold have imagined that it was such a long ranging plan…its not until the middle class is effected that you see an uprising, and even then, we’re gonna be lucky if its just an uprising at the voting booths….and only in response to such extreme criminal activity, murder and lies, that the American people cant ignore it any longer!
I have lost faith in the American people…it takes a graphic scene like Katrina to get some action and even then we have to hope that the memory doesnt fade in the face of fake terrorist threats or another wag the dog war.
Kids living in shelters is not enough…homelessness all over LA is not enough….old people not getting their medicine is hardly enough…thousands dead is not enough….bodies floating down main street maybe approaches enough… what next?
In 1988 we couldnt have predicted much of any of this. But I dont think that there is gonna be anarchy in the streets. I wouldnt hold my breath anyway.
April 4, 2006
Provocative Humanitarianism?
Bashing Hugo Chavez at the New York Times
By DAVE LINDORFF
What do you call a nation that provides medical aid to desperately poor people in Mexico, heating assistance to low-income families in the U.S., crucial project financing to some of the poorest countries in Africa, and aid to impoverished Caribbean island nations?
If you’re the New York Times, you call it “provocative,” and you call the leader of that country “the next Fidel Castro.”
hey i promised to back up my claims earlier it happens trust me but uh this is the best i have found so far to back me up
Tension in the ranks
Ooten said tension exists among some workers, mostly along the lines of those looking to retire and those who must keep working.
A potential split along seniority lines is a thorny issue for UAW members. Some of the Grand Rapids activists say co-workers with less seniority appear more open to concessions, while those with higher seniority appear more aligned with the protesters.
“A lot of the younger elected officials have not been educated in traditional union ways,” said Dean Braid, who works at GM’s powertrain plant in Flint, Mich. “All they know is to bargain away basic rights that we’ve had for years.”
Soldiers of Solidarity leader Gregg Shotwell has 27 years of service with Delphi and GM. Although he would be eligible for one of the retirement programs unveiled last week, he derides such plans as “pay to betray.”
“They want to pay the older seniority people to betray the lower seniority people and the workers in general,” he said. “I’m afraid that if I accept this offer, I’m going to hurt the person I work next to because I’m going to abandon them,” Shotwell told Automotive News.
Kokomo leader Todd Jordan agreed. “It’s a way to mitigate resistance to concessions and lost jobs. The UAW has accepted defeat and is negotiating a peace agreement which will further degrade new hires,” he said.
Shotwell acknowledged some of his co-workers may like the offer, which he and Jordan called a “buyoff” rather than a buyout.
“It’s human nature to want to relieve anxiety,” Shotwell said. “Some people will look at this as an escape. What I’m questioning is: Is there really safety in this? If you undermine the people that you leave behind, eventually they’re going to be negotiating for us.”
Middle Class people led the anti-war movement here during Viet Nam. It is said that had Nixon went through with his invasion of Cambodia, that 30-40 million people would have pored into the streets.
As long as the political debate in this country is geared to support corporations firs and foremost, then voting will not lead to any revolt.
However, if people finally get pissed off because of the continuing stolen elections due to dominionist blackbox companies…(Why do the dems abait the repos on this? In other countries, the opposition party would be up in arms over such tactics.)
Politics in this country is designed to benefit business. That’s the way the founding fathers designed it. Workers have few intrinsic rights. The Delphi deal is but anothe episode in this saga.
Howard Zinn says that we need an economic Bill of Rights to go along with our political one.
:nixon:
Awesome Interview with Cecilia Fire Thunder
Body: The Power of Thunder
By Rose Aguilar, AlterNet. Posted April 4, 2006.
Cecilia Fire Thunder, president of the South Dakota Ogala Sioux, takes on the state’s repressive new abortion ban.
Just two weeks after South Dakota Gov. Mike Rounds signed the state’s extreme abortion ban with no exceptions for rape and incest, Cecilia Fire Thunder, the first woman president of the Oglala Sioux tribe, made national headlines after saying she would personally set up a clinic on her tribe’s land in South Dakota to preserve a woman’s right to choose. There is currently only one clinic in the entire state of South Dakota that provides abortions, and its status, since the ban, is endangered.
President Fire Thunder’s decision to take the lead on this issue is nothing short of remarkable considering the number of challenges on the reservation. Almost half of all Native American women in South Dakota are poor, compared with approximately 10 percent of white women, according to the Institute for Women’s Policy Research report on the Status of Women in South Dakota. Median annual earnings for women in South Dakota rank last in the nation. Furthermore, the unemployment rate on the reservation is 85 percent and the life expectancy rate is 46 for men and 55 for women.
People in America suffer from learned helplessness. We saw a very different war in Viet Nam…I remember clearly the images on the television.
It was a very smart Rove/Bush/Cheney who decided to not allow pictures of even caskets much less the horror of blood and bodies. When these things get posted on the internet that is one thing but not much is making it into people’s living rooms via a trusted news media.
This whole thing has been molded and crafted to suit this administration. There are no millions of people gonna suddenly realize and flood the streets…its the middle class getting screwed who might switch channels from Fux news and turn on their computers and look around….
The only hope is a kneejerk reaction that will make people who might vote for the same old people just vote opposit because its different….and because the last time the Dems ran things, life was better for everyone.
I really dont believe that its gonna be because they suddenly realize that they have to be aware and go and stand up for something….
Big business needs to be regulated. The deregulation of big business has been a disaster.
hey come on someone else talk about unions!
Lou Dobbs is on CNN now and doing the Delay resignation…crazy!
OK, whether you’re in a union or not, you wouldn’t have any of the things you take for granted if people hadn’t been willing to get their heads cracked open (and worse) to fight for working people.
During the Vietnam war we had a draft.. 500,000 US troops were in Vietnam and there were probably half that many in the US being run though basic training. The average age of a solder in Vietnam was like 23 at the start and 19 at the end of the war. The process of transcription was that they put your name on a peace of paper at your draft board and then drew a certain number each month out of a hat and you got a nice letter from DOD telling you when and where to report. There were deferments for health reasons and education.. A lot of kids who would not have gone to college went just to avoid the draft. The vision one got was of some guy having sex with his girl friend and a big hand came out of the sky grabbed him by the back of his neck and he disappeared for two years and came back completely different than when he left. The nightly news brought fifteen minutes of the war into every ones living room. We were told the same line we are being fed today.. we are winning, victory is just around the corner, 100 Vietcong were killed today.. But by the mid 1970’s enough kids had become young adults and had been there and done that that so no one bought the BS. You can understand why there was unrest. The peace demonstration in DC in 1972 was during a full session of both the house and senate. They anticipated 50,000 demonstrators they got close to half a million. Congress had to be evacuated to the parking structure in the case the demonstration got out of hand,, The demonstrators didn’t line up with cardboard tubes and construction paper signs but were fully prepared to assault the capitol and do bad things to those inside. Congress knew they had to stop the war. This war is fought in a dream world where the average person really can ignore it..The typical worker sees no connection between the politician in DC and the loss of his/her job.. Most are rethugs anyhow and all they want is lower taxes and they like rethugs because that’s what they are told they are getting.
Labor struggles on the other hand have never been fought in a globalization environment. No company ever had the ability to just leave if they didn’t like the labor conditions.
“Norma Rae” :fist:
Randi is on lou dobbs on CNN now…she looks tired
A century ago the unions and their membership paid great prices to get decent working conditions and wages. The Ford River Rouge and Triangle Shirtwaist Factory and Haymarket Square incidents forced concession by management making gains for workers — gains in the form of work with safety, dignity, equity.
Today owners lock the doors of chicken processing plants resulting in the deaths of workers in fires. And the workers make concessions to keep jobs. Big Auto no longer needs Pinkertons to crack skulls — they thereaten to close. And the workers capitulate.
The forty-hour work week was paid for with blood. Now forced overtime and less-than-full employment are becoming the norm. Even “exempt” employees are exempt from wage and hour rules.
We are losing treasures and a way of life that others paid dearly for.
Rhodes keeps implying that our kids are dying in IRAQ.. I think the average age of the person in the occupation force is like 33 because of the use of so many reserves and National Guard troops. I suppose they are someones kids but they are not teenagers like we had in Vietnam.
Molly Ivins
It was a very smart Rove/Bush/Cheney who decided to not allow pictures of even caskets much less the horror of blood and bodies. When these things get posted on the internet that is one thing but not much is making it into people’s living rooms via a trusted news media.
Comment by Melina — April 4, 2006 @ 6:08 pm
Good point Melina. I have vivid memories of watching the CBS Evening News with my dad when I was a kid. The images were striking enough, but the fact that someone as trusted as Walter Cronkite was bringing it into America’s living rooms made it even more visceral, at least for me.
Plus nowadays, with Bush’s uniquely American scenario of working multiple jobs, parents arranging child care, etc. it takes a real effort to find the time and energy to even keep up with what’s going on in the country for a lot of people, let alone participating in any kind of activism.
Which suits the Bushies just fine, of course. The tired masses of the soon-to-be-extinct middle class are one step up from the permanent non-voting underclass he wants to institute with the heinous Guest Worker program.
Damn, that sounded sort of Bolshevik. :growl:
On a MUCH more positive note, glad to hear that all went well for Kat. Sounds as if she’ll be up and blogging in no time.
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Locking up the employer is the right idea but that would destroy the rethug base so you can forget that idea.
This week the Senate continues debate on immigration reform that began last week and is considering a number of key amendments to proposed bills. The Senate has until April 6 (Senate Majority Leader Frist’s imposed deadline) to pass a bill that will either finally address the real needs of this nation’s 12 million undocumented immigrants or will follow the Frist enforcement-only approach. Senator Frist’s bill is similar to the House bill (HR 4437) which was passed in December 2005. HR 4437 unconscionably criminalizes immigrants and social service providers, proposes construction of a 400-mile long wall along the U.S./Mexico border, and closes off avenues to citizenship for hard-working, undocumented immigrants.
Based on meetings with senators and staff, it seems likely that the Senate Judiciary Committee bill (which is very similar to the bill proposed by Sen. Kennedy D-MA and Sen. McCain R-AZ) will survive any attempts at filibuster or derailment by senators advocating a more punitive approach to immigration. This bill establishes a path to citizenship for immigrants and authorizes a guest worker program that allows undocumented immigrants to work in this country without fear while building up credit toward eventual citizenship. It does not include provisions criminalizing migrants or service providers.
The amendment process over the next week will be important to the final outcome of immigration reform. It is important that advocates send a strong message to senators in support of an earned legalization program and a guest worker program that leads to citizenship when it comes time to vote this Thursday. Oppose criminalizing migrants and those who provide them aid, as well as the proposed militarization of our border.
Yes Fred…the draft had a big influence too. There was no one who didnt know someone who had been called up an had either gone or just gotten out of it by the skin of their teeth.
My Mom was so very political so she was involved with her friends in the protests and all….I was just a kid but still right in the middle of it all. I was so clear on what was happening…and maybe because my Mom is an artist so she always had these incredible war photos…and her lab guy was in the Life lab, so we saw so many strong images…but I also remember all the caskets coming off the planes. It was somehting that really made an impression on me. I wish that today’s kids (even though they are too anxious) would be able to see the result of war a little more clearly…it is all in a dream world. Its such a strong thing to see your parents stand up and fight the power.
Thx Mr. FK and
:banana::banana::banana: Yea FARMERKAT :billcat:
You are a powerful :fist: woman 😉
I remember them doing the monthly death counts on the Today Show (used to be a news show, as I recall, with Hugh Downs, Frank Blair, Edwin Newman, Baba Wawa), and daily reports of bombing and napalm. And of courrse the coffins coming home. It was always something like 24 US Soldiers killed, 78 wounded, 68 South Vietnamese killed, 125 wounded, and 537 Vietcong killed, 1,250 wounded. It’s a wonder there were any Vietcong left with those numbers.
Of course, we were all very interested, since my brother had the honor of serving his country over there.
Oh, and I’m Back :billcat: :doh:
G’Morning, G’Evening To All
and thx Isi re #81
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Great news about our dear Farmerkittens.
Will be on a red-eye flight during the show tonight.:40:
just got bumped into first-class for the first time ever.
Does that happen when you turn 50?
Anyone buy that Buy Blue book that just came out?
I think that’s what it’s called.
I dated a BOY who served over there (as did other relatives) but this boy just sat and rocked and ONLY talked to himself and “dribble” — when he returned. I remember wearing the metal wrist bands naming the soldiers, and waiting till THEY returned. Most bought one, I, with little school money, bought two and waited till THEY LUCKILY RETURNED however a few I knew personally (of the many) DID NOT RETURN or just rocked and talked to himself. He and I were close but he could not be touched (via his parents). VETS were given hardly any help EVER.
Sorry, all this talk of VN still gets to me and I just had to say a bit of my story.
sbluefox, and I :love: that :knit: “emo” and I got to use (re FK:love:) last night for the first time. :nod:
Delay
Yo! everyone,
Thank you Mr. FK for the update. We’re all relieved to here the good news! :banana:
Druid,
my former father-in-law had a great piece of wisdom regarding war. If any president declares war and sends our sons and daughters to die, he should immediately be taken out onto the south lawn and shot. If he/she deeemed war that necessary, then the president should be the first one to die.
andy :nod: 😉
nite everyone…enjoy the show. If people on Marc’s blog know Kat, tell them about the flower purchase happening tomorrow and to paypal or email me at doubter at optonline dot net….
Did the torrent of today’s show ever go up?
Ive been waiting for it.
Delay is toast!:rofl2:
Who’s Next?:omg:
How do I get to the paypal and try to work that for flowers? Anyone?
Andy’s post reminded me of something humorist Henry Morgan (No, not the MASH guy) said on the radio that got him in deep doo. He suggested that the launch codes for the nuclear missles should be surgically inplanted in the viserca of the President’s wife. If he wants to launch the bomb he must “retrieve” the codes by himself — by hand.
Druid–Melina and I both e-mailed you today. Didn’t you get either of them?
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I’m probably going to sleep in the next 15 minutes, but I’ll check back here and in my inbox before I do.
citizenkahn :banana:
at :billcat:
lexikahn :doh:
dot 😮
net :rofl2:
Last call for Druid . . .
citizenkahn I GOT BOTH :banana: and now I am thinking about being bold and doing PayPal 😉
citizenkahn, Oh, and I already “forgot” adrs
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Druid–not sure what you mean, but go to today’s comment number 13 and follow the link to PayPal. If I recall, setup is pretty easy. I’m going to sleep but I hope you’re successful! (And if not, let one or both of us know how much you want to contribute and we’ll work out the details later.)
‘Night, :sheep:le!
Old Zeb :rofl2::banana::rofl2: I guess I should be serious :banana::rofl2::banana: 😉